Sunday, February 24, 2019

Three Lenses on Radical Social Justice Zealots

This last month I've been looking at radical social justice as a religion. Here's James Lindsay's short twitter thread on what distinguishes someone pushing for social justice from a zealot (social justice warrior).







It looks like there are three main ways of viewing this radical group

  1. quasi-religious cult - a science of religion frame
  2. authoritarian group - a social psychology frame
  3. adaptive group  - a biological frame
I'd suggest the science of religion frame is probably the most useful. The literature on authoritarianism is interesting and very informative. As James points out, you have to combine a few different authoritarian concepts to get at the whole thing. The quasi-religious lens is basically more of a sociological frame. Rather than looking at individual psychologies, you're looking more at the group level.  Thus, authoritarianism is more of an individualistic perspective while quasi-religion is more of a sociological perspective (in the classical technical sense of that term).

The biological frame, fully represented by D.S. Wilson's Darwin's Cathedral, mainly deals with the adaptive benefits of group behavioural wells. It provides proximate and ultimate reasons for authoritarianism, including its internal and external group dynamics.

I think the religion lens basically lays at the intersection of the adaptive and authoritarian frames.


The science of religion lens takes into account adaptive evolutionary perspectives. For instance, it looks at the role of moral group agents, the value of sacred values, norms, rituals, costly commitment displays etc. These are all things that are associated with sustainable adaptive groups. Adding in a moral element modifies adaptive group dynamics a bit. It exaggerates certain components.  Specifically, the components it exaggerates are those related to authoritarianism.  This includes the heightened role of group agents (moral big brothers), appeal to authority, and norms & in-group out-group gradients. These are the salient points James highlights with respect to the authoritarian literature.

The main difference with quasi-religion is its extraordinarily large focus on transcendent values, and supernaturalism. Basically, the quasi-religious lens postulates individuals act out authoritarian behaviours because it's an ideal solution to growing and sustaining adaptive groups. Thus, authoritarianism isn't simply a reflection of people's cognitive dispositions for oppression, it's a reflection of their tendency for forming groups which rally around something of transcendent value or meaning. Note that the adaptive group frame generalizes this more. It postulates that group formation and its associated behaviours occur due to adaptive benefits. It makes no claim on transcendent values. That is a sub-set: a particular type of adaptive group.

Thus, the question between authoritarianism and quasi-religion is settled on the question of whether social justice zealots are primarily motivated by power or transcendence. Both are obviously at play. But, what was the vector?

I know which one I lean to, both in terms of historical trajectory accuracy, and in terms of likely future directions...

3 comments:

  1. Here's James Lindsay talking about the substitution (homeostasis) hypothesis and the three roles religion plays
    -transcendent meaning
    -group belonging & hierarchical roles
    -control

    1:03:14
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97FuO-hEhQo

    He sees meaning making as having little to do with radical SJ zealots and control as dominant.

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  2. I think the control idea is just a bit too..... convenient. Maybe it reflects too much Foucault. I suspect adaptiveness is a better frame. Zealots are exploring a landscape where cultishness can grow via a Kafka-trapped universalist theology. Hence authoritarianism is a very robust solution. It has lots of room to grow and to lift up those who embrace it, while conveniently feeling extremely pro-social.

    The simplistic factor analysis for religion's role doesn't get at this. But, I think if you look at the New Religious Movement literature, you get a bit better sense of this. James hints to this with his quick acknowledgement of radical Social Justice sects as cults.

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  3. As to James' off-hand comment that Hipsters are a religion, and people don't have to worry about them... (1:06:15)

    I think Hipsters don't have as strong a Moral Big Brother as do Social Justice zealots. Hipster "religiosity" is toned down enough you miss the religious phase change that happens. As a result, that movement displays almost none of the signals and hence characteristics of an adaptive group.

    see this post for my religious rating scale and comments about phase change (S-curve dynamics)

    https://largegroupdynamic.blogspot.com/2018/12/part-1-social-justices-religious-sects.html

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